LAC1961 - sure do get the Why? over and over. Literally - in the store, about why I talked to a cashier - and why she said what she did, and why I said what I did, just a couple of weeks ago!
Heather40 - I relate 100% with the older one - making it even testier. I try to remind myself, that I cant even get my 47yr old husband to get it - when it comes to me or my spd son. Then it is not as surprising when the 15yr old doesnt remember that he should know, WHEN is WHEN.(referencing the how much peper - just say when) I have a look that I shoot at the kid - because I know - way before he does, that my 12yr old is nearing when, resulting in the edge of no return. It can be exhausting, and frustrating. I shot dagers at my 15yr old last night over what he thought was fun and games - luckily we avoided the meltdown - but gosh it was close - I was ready to go to bed after that! Exhausting!!! A ghostly referee is what I have become - feeling like Gandhi if everyone still likes each other, by the end of the day!!!! sad but true.

Its great that push ups are working for you all - is the idea, that it burns that extra fuel? because my kid loves pushups - and does that random physical stuff - at any given moment, to the point that I get anxious waiting for him to hurt himself crashing into something, breaking something, or someone else! At his school, in gym on Friday - they had a pushup test (how many they can do) he did 20+ and still has shoulder, and chest aches from them (he likely has pediatric fibromyalgia not diagnosed yet) Yesterday, he had a complete game of soccer as the goalie - and still was bonkers last night! I gotta get him going on the treadmill - but dont trust him to not go over speed, cause he has done that before - he like his speed punching bag, and our fooseball table. I wish I was still able to be physically active with him, so I could direct him better! (like catches, or soccer in the yard) He is a very physically fit kid, and will play past pain. I just dont think he is getting enough activity in these days.

As far as dicipline - when my boys were much younger - I followed the 1,2,3 method, and the idea - you have to know what their currency is. Currency with my spder is, and has always been, sports, and electronics. The currency idea(still in use today) - I am slightly ashamed to say, is strait out of Dr. Phils mouth! Its true, and it works. The 1,2,3 method - is great because it gives them a warning time, which for my kids was always a good way to go. If I get to 3 - a currency is going away - no if, ands, of buts. I learned that method from the book - 1,2,3 magic. Good luck guys! (still gotta try the laugh thing though!)