I would just like to add, as a mother of 2 SPD children one avoider one seeking, our oldest is 4 and 1/2 and was only just now potty trained 100% cept when sleeping then he goes in "night pants" AKA pull ups..

I would sugest, no pull ups, but if you dont want a constant mess, to use cloth diapers, you can make a handfull for everyday use pretty cheaply, and use pull ups only at night... also
with out child we made a BIG deal when we had to go potty loudly saying if we are peeing or pooping, and rushing to the bathroom and letting him watch. I also pumped him FULL of juice for days and days, when we were home at this time i used the the bare bottom, and we tryed stickers but,they didnt work to well what was the best for us was everytime he sat on the potty was a HUGE clapping hooting fest, and LOTS of talking about it even 10 minutes later we were saying , Man that was SO awsome when you peed high five again...
he also had his own small potty so we could Sit together... hes a bit OCD so we actualy Just recently got rid of his small potty, he didnt want to use our big potty even tho out in public he had no problem using the bathrooms.... we also took him into EVERY bathroom of where ever we went.. so lots of extra exposure...

good luck, its pretty hard all together, and our youngest who is almost 3 and has very little language (is now just getting some) and few ASL Signs, she seems like shes a LONG way off from the potty.

But as i cried to my hubby yeaterday, we were camping and We both got stressed at our 1st trip with the kids (we dont do much with 2 kids with SPD, even shopping trips are nightmares on a daily base) I said , "I just want to do something NORMAL, and have a experiance with the kids, thats NORMAL!!!!" and sometime you get normal, but 99.9% of the time you just have to clean up pee for the 1000th time in a day in the hopes the lightbulb clicks on and the message dosnt get re-routed.

(07-16-2012, 12:18 AM)Odemus Wrote: I would just like to add, as a mother of 2 SPD children one avoider one seeking, our oldest is 4 and 1/2 and was only just now potty trained 100% cept when sleeping then he goes in "night pants" AKA pull ups..

I would sugest, no pull ups, but if you dont want a constant mess, to use cloth diapers, you can make a handfull for everyday use pretty cheaply, and use pull ups only at night... also
with out child we made a BIG deal when we had to go potty loudly saying if we are peeing or pooping, and rushing to the bathroom and letting him watch. I also pumped him FULL of juice for days and days, when we were home at this time i used the the bare bottom, and we tryed stickers but,they didnt work to well what was the best for us was everytime he sat on the potty was a HUGE clapping hooting fest, and LOTS of talking about it even 10 minutes later we were saying , Man that was SO awsome when you peed high five again...
he also had his own small potty so we could Sit together... hes a bit OCD so we actualy Just recently got rid of his small potty, he didnt want to use our big potty even tho out in public he had no problem using the bathrooms.... we also took him into EVERY bathroom of where ever we went.. so lots of extra exposure...

good luck, its pretty hard all together, and our youngest who is almost 3 and has very little language (is now just getting some) and few ASL Signs, she seems like shes a LONG way off from the potty.

But as i cried to my hubby yeaterday, we were camping and We both got stressed at our 1st trip with the kids (we dont do much with 2 kids with SPD, even shopping trips are nightmares on a daily base) I said , "I just want to do something NORMAL, and have a experiance with the kids, thats NORMAL!!!!" and sometime you get normal, but 99.9% of the time you just have to clean up pee for the 1000th time in a day in the hopes the lightbulb clicks on and the message dosnt get re-routed.

Thank you so much for replying!! I'm clearly not alone. I know I need to stop putting her in Pull Ups, but after 18 months of cleaning up pee, I just had to do it before I went crazy. The OT suggested putting panties under the Pull Up, and I really have to start doing it, but I've been so burned out, I'm trying to recover a little before I start again.

Hello LAC1961!

I am currently going through this in a way with my 4 year old. She is a avoider/hyposensitive. She is potty trained during the day, but my struggle is at night.

My suggestion which is what I had to do with my little girl, is, gradually take the pull ups away. Start with having her wear them like usually. But while you have her wearing them, remind her to go potty every 15 to 20 minutes, then, after so long, start having her wear big girl panties for portions of the day and do the same thing with reminding her every so often to go.

The suggestion that the OT had for you about putting panties under the pull up is a great idea, I had done that one with my daughter too, however, she didn't take to it. I do know of some friends who have done this with their children and have had success.

Take a deep breathe and hang in there. You are doing the best you can with what you are working with. It is hard, especially if the child is showing no signs or is willing to want to train. My daughter was almost a few months shy of 4 before we got her potty trained during the day time. Give yourself and her some time to recover from that last go around.

I hope you can find something that works We are here for ya rooting you and her on <3

(07-17-2012, 10:13 AM)heatherv112506 Wrote: Hello LAC1961!

I am currently going through this in a way with my 4 year old. She is a avoider/hyposensitive. She is potty trained during the day, but my struggle is at night.

My suggestion which is what I had to do with my little girl, is, gradually take the pull ups away. Start with having her wear them like usually. But while you have her wearing them, remind her to go potty every 15 to 20 minutes, then, after so long, start having her wear big girl panties for portions of the day and do the same thing with reminding her every so often to go.

The suggestion that the OT had for you about putting panties under the pull up is a great idea, I had done that one with my daughter too, however, she didn't take to it. I do know of some friends who have done this with their children and have had success.

Take a deep breathe and hang in there. You are doing the best you can with what you are working with. It is hard, especially if the child is showing no signs or is willing to want to train. My daughter was almost a few months shy of 4 before we got her potty trained during the day time. Give yourself and her some time to recover from that last go around.

I hope you can find something that works We are here for ya rooting you and her on <3

Thanks so much. I appreciate your encouragement.

[/quote]I said , "I just want to do something NORMAL, and have a experiance with the kids, thats NORMAL!!!!" and sometime you get normal, but 99.9% of the time you just have to clean up pee for the 1000th time in a day in the hopes the lightbulb clicks on and the message dosnt get re-routed.
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Sorry to hijack this post but I just wanted to thank Odemus for this quote. I have been very frustrated lately and feel like no one else really seems to be when I read forums like this. I have not had problems with potty training but I could change "clean up pee" to any number of things. It's good to know I am not alone.

(07-16-2012, 01:13 AM)LAC1961 Wrote:

(07-16-2012, 12:18 AM)Odemus Wrote: I would just like to add, as a mother of 2 SPD children one avoider one seeking, our oldest is 4 and 1/2 and was only just now potty trained 100% cept when sleeping then he goes in "night pants" AKA pull ups..

I would sugest, no pull ups, but if you dont want a constant mess, to use cloth diapers, you can make a handfull for everyday use pretty cheaply, and use pull ups only at night... also
with out child we made a BIG deal when we had to go potty loudly saying if we are peeing or pooping, and rushing to the bathroom and letting him watch. I also pumped him FULL of juice for days and days, when we were home at this time i used the the bare bottom, and we tryed stickers but,they didnt work to well what was the best for us was everytime he sat on the potty was a HUGE clapping hooting fest, and LOTS of talking about it even 10 minutes later we were saying , Man that was SO awsome when you peed high five again...
he also had his own small potty so we could Sit together... hes a bit OCD so we actualy Just recently got rid of his small potty, he didnt want to use our big potty even tho out in public he had no problem using the bathrooms.... we also took him into EVERY bathroom of where ever we went.. so lots of extra exposure...

good luck, its pretty hard all together, and our youngest who is almost 3 and has very little language (is now just getting some) and few ASL Signs, she seems like shes a LONG way off from the potty.

But as i cried to my hubby yeaterday, we were camping and We both got stressed at our 1st trip with the kids (we dont do much with 2 kids with SPD, even shopping trips are nightmares on a daily base) I said , "I just want to do something NORMAL, and have a experiance with the kids, thats NORMAL!!!!" and sometime you get normal, but 99.9% of the time you just have to clean up pee for the 1000th time in a day in the hopes the lightbulb clicks on and the message dosnt get re-routed.

Thank you so much for replying!! I'm clearly not alone. I know I need to stop putting her in Pull Ups, but after 18 months of cleaning up pee, I just had to do it before I went crazy. The OT suggested putting panties under the Pull Up, and I really have to start doing it, but I've been so burned out, I'm trying to recover a little before I start again.

How did your camping trip go? Did you get any R&R?
We took out daughter on a weekend trip. Friday she stayed dry all day at day care!! She reminded us about a toy we had bought her nearly two months ago for staying dry all day, so we gave it to her Friday night on the way to our weekend get away. We were cautiously optomistic that she stayed dry all day Friday with no adult "encouragement". It became clear Saturday that she only did it for the toy she had been thinking about for several weeks. Right back to wetting Saturday and Sunday. I hope my hair grows back after I get done PULLING IT OUT! We didn't say a word, except you need to go to the bathroom and change your clothes--very matter of fact. We're used to the roller coaster ride by this point. It really made me appreciate your comment about doing something "normal". At this point, normal for us is wet pants.

I want to second the cloth pull ups! DD gets that extra notification that she is wet that undies give her, but without the mess to clean up of clothes/floor/bed. DD hated that wet feeling and did much better, also tripping her to the bathroom every hour.

I started today glueing strips of fabric into the center of the pull up so, theoretically, she will feel that she is wet. I'll let you know how it goes. I did find a pair of waterproof training pants several months ago that appeared to look the most like panties, but they were $25 per pair. That was rediculous. Does anyone have recommendations for which brand of cloth pull ups works best?

Hi, I'm new to the forum and fear potty training my soon to be 3 year old SPD boy. Nice to hear that I'm in good company

We have not yet even started potty training... it would be far too soon, my boy is no where near ready. Rather I'm in the information gathering stage so when he's ready, I'm ready (or less un-ready).

I have a good friend with a 5.5 year old boy (not SPD) who has all sorts of accidents and is headed off to kindergarten later in the month. True, he has his own medical issues, etc. but it is easy to pick out areas to improve upon when you're viewing other people parent... so if I may pick out a possible area of improvement for my IRL friend it would be that they did not make him nearly responsible enough to own the whole process of potty training. I think that the suggestion of a plastic bin in the bathroom for messed up pants is a good one. Also, if your daughter can keep reasonably dry for 2 weeks at times, I would put my energy into going forward, not taking a break. I think you might be served well to just help your daughter know how to clean up the messes and perhaps she'll see that cleaning up the clothes, herself and the sofa is actually a ton of work... should she like to try harder to stay dry she can avoid that cleaning process. But since no one but she in in her head, it is really hard to know how best she learns to stay dry. Like does she forget? Can't feel her bladder is full? Can't get to the potty in time? Having a hard time with buttons? Does your daughter have motor planning issues? Maybe she really is having a hard time making a plan to physically go to the bathroom when it's time... and by the time she is getting her brain organized she has already had the accident.

I vote you make potty training a very neutral subject. You would then not be super happy when there is success, nor are you let down when there are failures. I think your daughter probably wants to be capable more than even you want her to be... so even the happy happy joy joy reaction to the good times might actually be a stress to continue to please you.

I'm sure you are doing a most wonderful job. Pat yourself on the back for dealing with a huge issue. I'd sit down with your daughter and tell her that she's a big girl and if she has an accident, you expect her to clean it up (and show the expectations... clothes in the bin, new pants on, dry up the floor, whatever) and then the only other talk about it is simple reminders, "did you get your wet clothes in the bin?" and a thank you...

You don't have a sticker chart or reward for putting one foot in front of another... and at one point she learned to walk. She'll learn to potty train too.

In the meantime a good vent always feels pretty darn good!
hugs!
Beth
mom to bryce (5) and chase (3)
one without, one with SPD. both perfect.

We just got back from a week-long vacation, and surprisingly, she had only 10 accidents the whole week. We observed that she did much better telling us when she had to use the toilet after a lot of heavy exercise (vestibular input). The vacation focused on a lot of outdoor activities, and the hotel had a kids paradise outside the back door (a bouncy house, bungy jumping on a tramp, wall climbing, ropes course). The 10 accidents were at dinner in the evening, on the plane ride, relaxing before bedtime. It seems she's more aware of what her body is telling her after a lot of input. Now we're back home, so we'll have to really keep her activity level up and track how she's doing. She has OT on Monday, so we'll review our progress with her therapist and see what she recommends.